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What is an effective categorization method of identifying and clarifying perceived holy, supernatural, or other similar experiences?

Claims of experiencing [X] frequently litter stories of people who convert from one religion to another, refresh their faith, or otherwise come to accept some new (to them) theistic notions. In these scenarios, [X] can range from things specific like ‘I felt the Holy Spirit come into me’ to ‘I had an experience where suddenly I escaped the trappings of my individuated self, and took on a cosmological state of mind.’ They can also be more generalized experiences of non-ordinary consciousness, feelings of spontaneous well-being, or epiphany-type episodes (i.e. in a case where some bit of gnosis is mystically understood). How does an atheist approach the following:

This may sound like a question about these experiences, but essentially I am looking for a very sober approach to deconstructing non-ordinary states of consciousness and mystic experiences.

Answer 2625

I don’t have any sources to cite, but as far as the “I became one with the universe” experience, I think that’s a function of a brain state where the part of the brain (sorry, I can’t remember which; not a doctor :) ) which distinguishes the edges of the self gets turned off. This state of mind occurs during drumming, chanting, repetitive dancing, and meditation, among other activities, many of which are associated with the sensation of “joining the cosmos.” When you literally can’t determine where “you,” your “self,” ends, then it feels like you are part of the great big everything.

Answer 2637

Unfortunately I can't offer a taxonomy of unusual experiences. However, there is a personality trait which may be relevant, called schizotypy. The trait encapsulates the tendency to have experiences on the diverse spectrum of phenomena associated with psychosis. And while unpalatable to many people who have such experiences, they are associated with psychosis. But it's important to remember that those experiences in and of themselves do not mean someone is insane. Those experiences can be as tame as every thought immediately and automatically suggesting an enormous number of ideas, to having the feeling of gaining or losing energy when people look at or touch you, to full-blown hallucinations and delusions. At the milder end of the spectrum are experiences that everyone might have a some point in their life.

The construct of schizotypy is used in a lot of psychological research as a measure of individuals' tendency to have those experiences. In particular, I (and many others) have used the scale developed by Mason and colleagues. It's divided into 4 parts. The most pertinent is called, suitably, the Unusual Experiences subscale, describing "perceptual aberrations, magical thinking, and hallucinations."

While schizotypy isn't a taxonomy of unusual experiences, the literature on schizotypy does provide some insight into the psychology and phenomenology of such experiences. Part IV of this book in particular may be relevant. while schizotypy is independent of mental health, most of the book discusses schizotypy in the context of illness. However part iv focuses on schizotypy in the general population. Chapter 11 deals specifically with spiritual experiences.

Answer 2650

John Searle has an interesting discussion of ontic vs. epistemic subjectivity in “The Mystery of Consciousness” and other works. According to his views, which I share, science and the naturalistic worldview are capable of dealing with subjective phenomena as long as they are epistemically objective. Holy, supernatural and other similar experiences are, under this classification, epistemically subjective, although ontologically objective (assuming the perceiver is not lying about them).


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